bloomberg. i don't see president obama doing very much. we had another incident at aurora, colorado, where he did nothing. mitt romney did nothing. it's a ridiculous argument. how can we possibly have assault weapons and why do we need guns? we don't need guns. we have 10,000 murders a year, as you tried to tell that big, fat idiot last night, how many murders were there by gun in england? what, 33? it's pathetic, but i don't see any change. >> gloria, it's a debate that is very hard to have without people getting very angry and very exercised. how do we try to move forward to a point of some consensus, where the gun lobby are persuaded that these ar-15, military-type machine guns, what they really are, are not a part of this debate in any way? >> well, i think, piers, it begins with a discussion in the court of public opinion. and i want to commend you for standing up what i think was bullying, big-time, last night, by alex jones. if politicians had a spine, the way you had last night, and stoo